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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270377">(Jul 08 2020 at 13:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>(&gt;'-')&gt;</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270421">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270521">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270580">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270585" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270585">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> meeting time!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270633">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270650" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270650">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270718">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270886">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's start!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203270982" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203270982">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>no high priority or nominated issues for us to look at</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271069">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Switch to GHA for everything but macOS</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271104">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's time to switch everything but macOS to GHA, retiring Azure Pipelines for those platforms</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271134" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271134">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm on board, I don't think there's any further evaluation we could do even if we wanted to.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271160">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>we haven't seen any problem on them except for macOS, and GHA will remove the recent timeouts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271271">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> you're the only one who didn't react or comment, are you ok with the change? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271310">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see a reaction now :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271322">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271353">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>finally</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271415">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>me and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="225192">@Nell Shamrell-Harrington</span> will continue to inquiry GitHub about premium support, but we dragged the evaluation so long I don't want to block on it anymore</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271467">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and paul and ed are pretty good unless they're on vacation)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271532">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I prepared a draft for an inside rust blog post announcing the change</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271534" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271534">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Rusts-CI-is-moving-to-GitHub-Actions--A3VFFHno2axT2tEG1Gj5aXeGAg-ai1jl8lLYF9s9ZKFKu4pC">https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Rusts-CI-is-moving-to-GitHub-Actions--A3VFFHno2axT2tEG1Gj5aXeGAg-ai1jl8lLYF9s9ZKFKu4pC</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271581">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>please read it over and leave comments on it :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271646">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and... I think that's all?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271690">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've got one update</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271702">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>regarding GHA :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271711">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>AH!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271729">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Post looks good to me. Just gave it a read through.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271757" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271757">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>please react here if you have something to say on GHA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271828" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271828">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok! let's move onto the next item!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271832">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="225192">@Nell Shamrell-Harrington</span> with cargotest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271924">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool! I drafted a list of repositories that seem to make sense to include (based on the criteria we discussed a few months ago and on the "most used libraries" section of the Rust Community Survey <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/70659">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/70659</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203271950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203271950">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are there any objections to the repositories listed in the last comment on that issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272037">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Giving people a moment to read</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272104">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> this looks like another set of candidates for my macOS/ARM smoke tests ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272112">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm wondering if it makes sense to test both tokio and reqwest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272123">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>serde is good to include. I'd probably at syn as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272189" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272189">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> I am fine with doing either or</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272255">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps just Tokio since I believe Tokio uses Reqwest?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272274">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>(reqwest uses tokio)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272277">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's the other way around :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272281">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>whoops!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272292">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps just reqwest, then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272312" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272312">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that's what I'd do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272313">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it <em>could</em> be different depending on features / versions chosen</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272327">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe including another async crate in addition to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272353">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>any suggestions for an additional async crate that is not tokio?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272440">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be good to do something like locally running these a couple thousand times just to try and make sure there's no non-deterministic tests and we should reach out to the maintainers (e.g., to see which features would be good to enable, etc.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272469">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you include serde-derive feature of serde, you'll get syn/quote/proc-macro2</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272526">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>could also steal the <a href="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a> / playground metadata for some crates that suggests what best to build. e.g. <a href="https://github.com/serde-rs/serde/blob/9e140a2071e27f186ba6f73abd7abfdb00f8e2fd/serde/Cargo.toml#L22-L26">https://github.com/serde-rs/serde/blob/9e140a2071e27f186ba6f73abd7abfdb00f8e2fd/serde/Cargo.toml#L22-L26</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272567">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool - for now, I'll add the serde-derive feature of serde to the list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272591">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>next question is how to keep the pinned commits up to date (each repo is pinned to a specific commit in Cargotest's <a href="http://main.rs">main.rs</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272687">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Could you enable dependabot for the cargotest repo?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272691">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could say something like every time a major version is released</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272728">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="235180">@Jack Moffitt</span> so, cargotest is a part of rust's test suite, like a small crater that's run on CI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272766">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'm really scared about adding dependabot to rustc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272774">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>So the crates are vendored in?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272792">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have a file with their repo hashes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272822">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/1d919c9377f4602d991ca1c7ba852e7555943740/src/tools/cargotest/main.rs#L14-L59">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/1d919c9377f4602d991ca1c7ba852e7555943740/src/tools/cargotest/main.rs#L14-L59</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272837">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>It might be worth <em>not</em> updating them, in some sense. We're testing regression-freedom, and the older they are, in some sense the more likely they are to be unintentionally affected</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272885">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm of two minds on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272940">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>there isn't anything (to my knowledge) to stop us from running it on multiple versions of a crate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272961" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272961">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's worth testing both a pinned version and the latestish version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203272969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203272969">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="225192">Nell Shamrell-Harrington</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting/near/203272940">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>there isn't anything (to my knowledge) to stop us from running it on multiple versions of a crate</p>
</blockquote>
<p>not sure we have CI time for that, but sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273022">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, if we had tokio pinned a year ago we would test a completly different codebase</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273025">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, other than CI time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273042">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>damn CI time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273046" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273046">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>indeed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273076">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>If it's either pinned or latest, I would say it should be latest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273091">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>If it can be both...we may have some more room to manuever</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273134" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273134">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>eh we could also go for a mix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273139">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't really care though :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273164" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273164">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, yeah -- thinking about it people are going to care more if today's serde is broken rather than if two years ago's serde doesn't work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273190">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we're looking for a place to start, I would say let's do at least the latest major version of each</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273193">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and there is crater to catch the other cases</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273234">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>which brings up the question how will we remember to update <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/1d919c9377f4602d991ca1c7ba852e7555943740/src/tools/cargotest/main.rs#L14-L59">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/1d919c9377f4602d991ca1c7ba852e7555943740/src/tools/cargotest/main.rs#L14-L59</a> when a new version of a crate is released?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273237">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we care about breakage in practice, then yeah we should basically "pin to latest release"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273302">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we want we can add it to the release cycle, I don't mind bumping versions in that file</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273359">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>(just add it to the todolist on <a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/release/process.html">https://forge.rust-lang.org/release/process.html</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273364">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's worth adding a <code>./x.py bump</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273407">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's an interesting thought</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273436">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>to automate bumping cargotest and eventually other things like the bootstrap compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273462">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>that sounds reasonable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273496">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright, that gives me enough to move forward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273509">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds hard, but I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273515">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd rather have docs for now :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273544" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273544">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll get a PR up updating the crates/shas this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273549">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>well if you're the one doing that I trust you :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273604" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273604">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>and add in a task to update x.py to include a bump command (probably won't get to that one until next week)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273696">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> is fine doing it manually and he volunteers for that we can probably not implement the bump command for now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273711">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>that would also be fine by me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273714">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean <em>if</em> we have the bump command great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273722">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>:D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273733">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>but to be honest that sounds quite hard and manually bumping is not that hard</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273744">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>docs are often the first step towards automation, either way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273765">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273793">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that's all I need :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273801">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>great!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273854">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>the next item on the agenda is two extra builders for CI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273944">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>both of them cross-compiling</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203273948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203273948">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>one for aarch64 windows, which was requested in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74116">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74116</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274035">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>and one for aarch64 macOS, for which I'm waiting to be asked about by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274057">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, it's coming alright</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274092">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="soon" class="emoji emoji-1f51c" role="img" title="soon">:soon:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274119">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>this item is mostly as a "status update", because we don't have the capacity on GHA for it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274230">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll probably ask again how to get a quota increase on GHA during today's call</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274282">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>just to ask, would anyone here be in favor of splitting auto builds across multiple organizations? that's the thing GHA proposed to us last time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274333">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>in <em>favor</em>, no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274351">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd kinda prefer not to do that myself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274356">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>we no longer cross to x86 for macOS, right? So we can't swap that out?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274359">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if it's what has to happen, well, I mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274401">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not really "opposed" out of more than just not wanting to do it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274402">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>we no longer cross to x86 for macOS, right? So we can't swap that out?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>we already repurposed that builder <span aria-label="smiley" class="emoji emoji-1f603" role="img" title="smiley">:smiley:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274580">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274622">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's all for the agenda -- react here if you have something to add :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274630">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let's just build our own CI /s</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274702">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Progress update: macOS/ARM is going well. I've got PRs open to libc and cc-rs, then will update those in rust-lang/rust and add a target</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274730" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274730">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's about when I was going to bug about the cross builder <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274811" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274811">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can cross-compile <code>rustc</code> from x86_64 -&gt; aarch64, bootstrap the compiler on aarch64, and cross-compile hello world from aarch64 -&gt; x86_64</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274915">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>End of update.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203274954" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203274954">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks for the work you're doing <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275024">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's been reasonably smooth so far, so most kudos go to LLVM and rustc devs. I just typey-typey.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275070">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's great! any other topic?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275312" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275312">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's all for this week then!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275332">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks everyone for attending!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275406">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jack Moffitt <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275409">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Nell Shamrell-Harrington <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275415">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275418">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08%20meeting/near/203275472" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-07-08.20meeting.html#203275472">(Jul 08 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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